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387281

PRINTER

FOR

EASTERN

No.

88

COLONIAL

USE

OF

OFFICE

Enclosure 1.

(Secret)

My Lord,

Hong Kong.

C. O.

38928

236

Ed. 22 OCT 061

Government House.

11 September

1906

In continuation of my referred despatch of the 6th September on the subject of negotiations for the completion of loan agreement and a joint working agreement in connection with the proposed Canton Kowloon Railway I have the honour to submit for information and record a correspondence with Mr Carnegie, at Peking, as furnishing information,

a paraphrase of further telegraphic correspondence.

2. The date of September 6th referred to in the first of these telegrams is that of a despatch, in which Mr Carnegie had sent to me a copy of one of the previous day in which he had reported on the negotiations to Sir Edward Grey. This despatch to the Foreign Office has already been communicated by the Department to your Lordship. In transmitting his copy of it to me Mr Carnegie added as follows:- "The points stated in your telegram of August 20th are borne in mind and will be brought forward at the proper time. They have been mentioned to Mr (Jordan) who sees difficulties with regard to the introduction of Chinese loan agreement."

3. Article 14 of the loan agreement as drafted in London was designed to prevent, inter alia, the construction of branches of the Kuki-Kowloon line and the invention of a rival railway detrimental to the Canton Kowloon line from Shek O to Canton, which is of special importance now that the Chinese have projected a line which, for 40 miles of its length, follows the course which must be generally adopted by the Canton Kowloon line.

4. I also enclose a letter from Mr Bland and a copy of the minutes of meetings referred to within. The letter shows that there is no opposition on the part of the Corporation's representative towards getting into the loan agreement, stipulations without which I am satisfied that the subsequent conclusion of a satisfactory working agreement will not be possible. For this I must rely on Mr Jordan and Mr Minister at Peking.

5. The minutes show that the Corporation's representative is now disposed to accept terms from the bankers, on the whole inferior to those which were offered in Vienna in June last. Your Lordship will remember that it was decided to obtain at Peking conditions more in accordance with the Chinese Government's undertakings. Mr Bland acted on the suggestion to transfer the negotiations from Canton that had been made to him by the Viceroy who at the time had full power under an Imperial Edict to carry on the negotiations.

I have the honour to be,

My Lord,

Your Lordship's most obedient

humble servant,

M. Nathan

Governor

The Rt Hon

The Earl of Elgin, K.G.

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387281 PRINTER FOR EASTERN No. 88 COLONIAL USE OF OFFICE Enclosure 1. (Secret) My Lord, Hong Kong. C. O. 38928 236 Ed. 22 OCT 061 Government House. 11 September 1906 In continuation of my referred despatch of the 6th September on the subject of negotiations for the completion of loan agreement and a joint working agreement in connection with the proposed Canton Kowloon Railway I have the honour to submit for information and record a correspondence with Mr Carnegie, at Peking, as furnishing information, a paraphrase of further telegraphic correspondence. 2. The date of September 6th referred to in the first of these telegrams is that of a despatch, in which Mr Carnegie had sent to me a copy of one of the previous day in which he had reported on the negotiations to Sir Edward Grey. This despatch to the Foreign Office has already been communicated by the Department to your Lordship. In transmitting his copy of it to me Mr Carnegie added as follows:- "The points stated in your telegram of August 20th are borne in mind and will be brought forward at the proper time. They have been mentioned to Mr (Jordan) who sees difficulties with regard to the introduction of Chinese loan agreement." 3. Article 14 of the loan agreement as drafted in London was designed to prevent, inter alia, the construction of branches of the Kuki-Kowloon line and the invention of a rival railway detrimental to the Canton Kowloon line from Shek O to Canton, which is of special importance now that the Chinese have projected a line which, for 40 miles of its length, follows the course which must be generally adopted by the Canton Kowloon line. 4. I also enclose a letter from Mr Bland and a copy of the minutes of meetings referred to within. The letter shows that there is no opposition on the part of the Corporation's representative towards getting into the loan agreement, stipulations without which I am satisfied that the subsequent conclusion of a satisfactory working agreement will not be possible. For this I must rely on Mr Jordan and Mr Minister at Peking. 5. The minutes show that the Corporation's representative is now disposed to accept terms from the bankers, on the whole inferior to those which were offered in Vienna in June last. Your Lordship will remember that it was decided to obtain at Peking conditions more in accordance with the Chinese Government's undertakings. Mr Bland acted on the suggestion to transfer the negotiations from Canton that had been made to him by the Viceroy who at the time had full power under an Imperial Edict to carry on the negotiations. I have the honour to be, My Lord, Your Lordship's most obedient humble servant, M. Nathan Governor The Rt Hon The Earl of Elgin, K.G. Page 240 Page 241
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387281 PRINTER FOR EASTERN No. 88 COLONIAL USE OF OFFICE Enclosure 1. (Serret) My Lord, Jong Kong. C. O 38928 236 Ed 22 OCT 061 Government House. 11 Sepdcomber Hyss In continuation of my Ferred despatch of the 6th September on the Subslel" of legoltations for the completion of loan aptement and a joint wating sprcement in connection with the proposed fanton Kowloon Railway I have the honour to Aulor for niformation and Elcord a correspondence wet. A 34 Venise, at Seking us thu 'mation, paraphrase of further helyraphic 2. The date of September 6th referred to in the first of these relegrams in that of a despatel, in which M'Carnegie had sent & tue a copy of she of the previous day in which he had reported on thu nepoliatious to Sir Shward Grey. This & patel. to can foreign office has routtles bien communicates & the Departinend to your Lordships. In transmitting his copy of it to ime My Carnegie shahd as folemos:- "The pourits stated in your telegram of stagund 20th are borne in mind and with be brouped forward at the proper fints. They have been mentioned to MB (and who sees difficullics with regard to the introduction of chkds loan agreement." 17 3. Article 14 of thu kosu Aficemat as drafted in London was designed to prevent unter alia the courkunction of bustics of the Juku-Kostoon Lung and the invention of a tival Tailisay detrimental to the uite his i Mauise of Chuck labio is of special chipatanu now that the Churics have projcated a luiɛ which. for 40 miles of ds longth follows the course which must be generally adopted I th lautu. Kristoon hue from Shek dung to Cantor. 4. Valso enclose a letics from topibland and of the maintes of meetings referred to wit. The letter shows the no appistance is (the Expertool from the Corporation's repuscudative towards geting into ith loan atraement, stiputations without which I am satisfied that the suboquend concluzion of a Satisfactory working apeement with not be posable. For this I must roll ou Kio Hapt» &) Minisku a♪ Pekutig. 1 5. The minutes how they the Corporation's representative is how didposed amps torms from the baile. Fue on this whole uiferior to those which was offered I in Vianor in fore last. Your Kochip with rememberthed it was in side" to obtani" as Peking consitions more in accorðanız wim Um Chinese goverments undulatuigs" the Mit Bland acted on the suggestion to transfer the myotiations from Canton that had been made to lum of the Viewy who as the tune had full power under an 'imputal Edict to carry on the hyppliations. The Rised Hon The Earl of Apie K9 01276-12 Sh oh de 48 V have (u honom abe My Lond Your Wordonip's mond roediend humble Jucsand Mbathand Govornos Page 240Page 241
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387281

PRINTER

FOR

EASTERN

No.

88

COLONIAL

USE

OF

OFFICE

Enclosure 1.

(Serret)

My Lord,

Jong Kong.

C. O

38928

236

Ed 22 OCT 061

Government House.

11 Sepdcomber

Hyss

In continuation of my Ferred despatch of the 6th September on the Subslel" of legoltations for the completion of loan aptement and a joint wating sprcement in connection with the proposed fanton Kowloon Railway I have the honour to Aulor for niformation and Elcord a correspondence wet. A 34 Venise, at Seking us thu 'mation,

paraphrase of further helyraphic 2. The date of September 6th referred to in the first of these relegrams in that of a despatel, in which M'Carnegie had sent & tue a copy of she of the previous day in which he had reported on thu nepoliatious to Sir Shward Grey. This & patel. to can foreign office has routtles bien communicates & the Departinend to your Lordships. In transmitting his copy of it to ime My Carnegie shahd as folemos:- "The pourits stated in your telegram of stagund 20th are borne in mind and with be brouped forward at the proper fints. They have been mentioned to MB (and who sees difficullics with regard to the introduction of chkds loan agreement."

17 3. Article 14 of thu kosu Aficemat as drafted in London was designed to prevent unter alia the courkunction of bustics of the Juku-Kostoon Lung and the invention of

a tival Tailisay detrimental to the

uite his

i Mauise of Chuck labio

is of special chipatanu now that the Churics have projcated a luiɛ which. for 40 miles of ds longth follows the course which must be generally adopted I th lautu. Kristoon hue from Shek dung to Cantor.

4. Valso enclose a letics from topibland and of the maintes of meetings referred to wit. The letter shows the no appistance is (the Expertool from the Corporation's repuscudative towards geting into ith loan atraement, stiputations without which I am satisfied that the suboquend concluzion of a Satisfactory working apeement with not be posable. For this I must roll ou Kio Hapt» &) Minisku a♪ Pekutig.

1

5. The minutes how they the Corporation's representative is how didposed lî amps torms from the baile. Fue on this whole uiferior to those which was offered I in Vianor in fore last. Your Kochip with rememberthed it was in side" to obtani" as Peking consitions more in accorðanız wim Um Chinese goverments undulatuigs" the Mit Bland acted on the suggestion to transfer the myotiations from Canton that had been made to lum of the Viewy who as the tune had full power under an 'imputal Edict to carry on the hyppliations.

The Rised Hon

The Earl of Apie K9

01276-12

Sh

oh de

48

V have (u honom abe

My Lond Your Wordonip's mond roediend

humble Jucsand

Mbathand

Govornos

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